IRISH BLOODSTOCK FORUMS :: View topic - Should number of mares covered be limited?

TOPOFTHEHILL»Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:08 am
Paddy the answer from me is NO! The limit is already set by commercial pressures and consequences which devalue the produce of mares by stallions who cover too many mares as they have a relative low value in the maket. (too many yearlings by any stallion will not realise their potential and those from lesser mares will suffer most) As far as the genetic consequences are concerned if it has a deterious effect then that too will be reflected in the value of foals and yearlings bred that way. Now that may be a long time from now but the 'stabilizer' will kick in sometime, if it doesn't then the effects will have been exagerated. If however they do, a new department will need to be set up and I would like to run it on a huge salary paid for by breeders and the tax payer. I would call it the Department for Assessing Foal Totals, Reply

Bono 2U»Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:27 am
DAFT... I like it. Nice one ! Reply

TOPOFTHEHILL»Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:44 am
Thanks Bono could you think of anyone dafter to administer the scheme, mind you like most politicians I follow the rule the dafter the candidate the more he needs to get paid. Its a sort of benevolent socialism that we have to keep our politicians in the style to which they aspire since they are so useless they would never survive in the real world and would become a bigger burden on society. Reply

Justamoment»Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:40 am
I would like to be C.E.O. of the Department for Useless Mares Book....known as DUMB Reply

Valerie»Fri Jan 14, 2011 13:43 pm
I am sure the major players would find an E.U. Law that would forbid any Trade Restrictions being brought in against the Free Trade policies etc.. However, I do share some concerns and at the very least a breeder should know how many other mares will be sharing their selected stallions amourous attention ! Reply

Bono 2U»Fri Jan 14, 2011 19:59 pm
Maybe Sales Companies should be instructed to offer no more then fifteen yearlings in any one sale by the same sire? Could that ever happen? Reply

Squid»Fri Jan 14, 2011 20:47 pm
And just who would give those instructions? Reply

Green Man»Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:17 am
Todays papers printed the official foal registrations. I think the following list is very interesting.............. 2009-5595(UK) 10167(IRE)
2010-4665(UK) 7588(IRE)
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yorkshirepudding»Wed Jan 19, 2011 17:09 pm
Not surprising really given that everyone is flat broke. Hopefully these mares with no page and no race record will not be bred from for awhile. Reply

yorkshirepudding»Wed Jan 19, 2011 17:09 pm
Not surprising really given that everyone is flat broke. Hopefully these mares with no page and no race record will not be bred from for awhile. Reply

TOPOFTHEHILL»Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:09 am
It would be a natural consequence YP but I don't think that commercial breeders should even think about the possibility of some sort of recovery in the market based on the reduced foal numbers. This was never the problem really. The prblem is the total lack of appeal for ownership, based mostly on the poor return on investment due to the authorities failure to secure and increase prize money levels. I can't even begin to tell you the number of people who are getting out or cutting back ownership. The numbers and the profile of the owners leaving is absolutely shocking. These people are a long way short of being 'broke' but they are just pissed off with the way the sport is being run and financed and they are walking away from it, pronbably for ever. These are people who had 3 or even more horses in training and have been involved for 20 plus years. Reducing the foal numbers is not going to get these people back. The authorities are brainless and totally unaware of what is happening. There has been further recent revelations concerning the integrity of racing here and trainers being warnd off. Why can't the BHA see that the more difficult it is to make a return on investment the greater the temptation to cheat. The reduction in available prize money has driven the bigger trainers and owners to run more horses in lower grade all weather races and this squeezes the smaller owners and trainers further still. They have two choices really, pack it in or organise a coup. Further more what does it do for the integrity of the sport when the bigger trainers are running expensive but unexposed horses in all weather handicaps and then running up sequences of wins on the turf. It shows that they will deliberately disguise the ability of a horse for 'cheap' wins to make their stats look good. Reply

Valerie»Thu Jan 20, 2011 15:36 pm
You paint a terrible picture and every word you write is so true. Racing has also become so boring over the last ten years. Absent winning owners is now the norm and all the glamour has disappeared. Reply

Oreally»Sun Jan 23, 2011 19:41 pm
I dont believe those foal figures.(the foals born in 2010 I mean).
True - 7588 foals may be REGISTERED in Ireland but those details will have come from Weatherby's Ireland and they wouldn't have a clue. Believe me there were many, many more foals born but because the nominations have NOT been paid for, then the foals cannot be registered. It's a sick joke.
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