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  Topic: 2.50 Curragh
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Subject: 2.50 Curragh   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Magical, Marsha and Winter. That's not a shabby set of broodmares to line up in a maiden. Dubawi, Justify and Frankel are the sires!! Almost worth a trip over just to look at those three.
  Topic: Camelot
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Subject: Camelot   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
He's had a few threads on here but after the weekend he surly deserves another one. Hopefully we will see some promising 2yo's as we progress through the season.
  Topic: Zarir
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Subject: Zarir   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Urban Sea duplicated 3x3. Good or bad?
  Topic: Mayson
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Subject: Mayson   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A nice 2yo winner for him in France yesterday and no fluke either.
  Topic: Sergei
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Subject: Sergei   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Got the National Stakes last night. Right at the top of the 2yo table in Britain now. Early in the season but pretty impressive.
  Topic: Camelot
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Subject: Camelot   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Well he has a proper Derby chance now. Not sure how good the form of that race is but you can't help but think those in front of him in the betting may end up non stayers. COT obviously has claims if ...
  Topic: Wootton Bassett...it begins.
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Subject: Wootton Bassett...it begins.   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
AOB has his first WB 2yo running at Navan on Saturday, a 1/2 brother to Golden Horde. I reckon you could back WB 2yo's blind out of AOB's this season and make a profit!
  Topic: New breeze-up sale at Naas
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Subject: New breeze-up sale at Naas   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I think this is a good move. This will increase demand for the right sort of yearling.
  Topic: Earthlight
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Subject: Earthlight   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
his first few runners yesterday all made the frame with one getting her head in front. Not a bad little start.
  Topic: Sergei
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Subject: Sergei   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
First runner, first winner...Boom.

What a start. He has a couple in the Brocklesby on Saturday and another one like that will get him a few late bookings I'm sure.

It looks a decent Brocklesy on ...
  Topic: Another initiative
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Subject: Another initiative   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/news/ebf-juddmonte-darley-and-tattersalls-combine-to-support-bhas-high-value-developmental-race-programme-avwl88p3K2yb/

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  Topic: worth a read
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Subject: worth a read   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/pdf/tdn/tdn240207e.pdf

3yo's to follow. His last pick was my favourite 2yo of last year. I have heard that she had a little set back before xmas.
  Topic: First Seasoners for 2024
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Subject: First Seasoners for 2024   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Pintatubo @ 2/1
Sergei Prokofiev @ 9/4
Earthlight @ 11/4
Far above @ 12/1
Mohaather @ 16/1
Kameko @ 16/1
Ghaiyyath @ 16/1
Arizona @ 20/1
Wooded @ 25/1
Hello Youmzain @ 25/1
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  Topic: Another one ousted
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Subject: Another one ousted   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Land Force off to Scotch Corner. The Highclere stallion page is a quick read now. Where did Cable Bay go?
  Topic: Camelot
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Subject: Camelot   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
It was a shame Luxembourg just missed out, he's one of my favorites. Camelot has got a bit lost in the background with all the Wootton Bassett and that American triple crown winner (his name escapes m ...
  Topic: 2024 Offerings
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Subject: 2024 Offerings   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I think we are there with the new ones and all the 2024 fees have been announced. Thoughts on whats on offer next year? Easier or harder for small breeders?
  Topic: A little help
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Subject: A little help   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Can anyone who has the 2021 return of mares help me out. I am looking for the numbers of mares the following stallions covered in 2021:
Cable Bay; Advertise; Invincible Army; Sergei Prokofiev; Taslee ...
  Topic: Goodnight Olive
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Subject: Goodnight Olive   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Sleep well Aunty Olive.... only kidding Megabucks Laughing

Does anyone else think $6m was cheap? Have we reached a ceiling on thoroughbred values? This is a mare that has won the Breeders Cup twice, ...
  Topic: Sergie
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Subject: Sergie   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A good few fillies available at the foal sales. Peter would have bravely taken the plunge but should we? Some forumite mat well have a vested interest here, lets hope he hasn't got a French Horn.
  Topic: Nathaniel is underrated....
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Subject: Nathaniel is underrated....   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
...so let's stick him up two and a half grand. Is it just me and Spock shaking our heads?
  Topic: August Rodin
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Subject: August Rodin   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
The lads sent one of their best mares half way around the world to the greatest sire in Japan, it was a very brave thing to do. They have produced a champion that has won a G1 at 2 and four G1s as a t ...
  Topic: Over you go Villy
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Subject: Over you go Villy   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Native Trail at a little over £15k seems worth the ferry ticket. I suggest you book early!
  Topic: Coolmore
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Subject: Coolmore   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
With at least Paddington and Little Big Bear taking residence next year they may well get short of room. Who's heading out? Here's the list:

Australia
Blackbeard
Calyx
Camelot
Churchill
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  Topic: Possible 2024 stallions
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Subject: Possible 2024 stallions   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
What about Bradsell, where's he going? Surely he won't stay in training.
  Topic: Donny heavy on Saturday
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Subject: Donny heavy on Saturday   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Looks like its a mud fest. The RP trophy looks a belter and let's hope it goes ahead. I think we may see next years 2000gns winner.
  Topic: A better weekend for Godolphin
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Subject: A better weekend for Godolphin   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Two nice colts won at Newmarket. A little overshadowed by COT but I think either pone could be classic types. Mawj still going strong with a grade 1 in the USofA.
  Topic: Top 10 GB 1st season sires
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Subject: Top 10 GB 1st season sires   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Below are the top 10 so far. Any mileage in the likes of Inns of Court, Land Force, Invincible Army foals this year?

1 Blue Point (IRE)
2 Soldier's Call (GB)
3 Too Darn Hot (GB)
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  Topic: Richard Knight. Osama Bin Laden....
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Subject: Richard Knight. Osama Bin Laden....   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
What could possibly go wrong??????
  Topic: Here we go with Bk1
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Subject: Here we go with Bk1   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I could do with it smashing all records and buyers having to look for horses in about 2 weeks time. Good luck if you have one selling.
  Topic: Foal sales soon
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Subject: Foal sales soon   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
1st season sires to look out for and any other that could turn a profit. Those less than the cost of a small island would be most of interest.
  Topic: Luxembourg
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Subject: Luxembourg   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Retire to stud or race on as a five year old?
  Topic: Gleneagles.
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Subject: Gleneagles.   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Oh what should have been. Great 2yo, great 3yo, great looking, great pedigree, great book of mares to get him going and now quietly slipping away....or is he? He seems to still be in demand (relativel ...
  Topic: Crazy pointless £100k incentive race.
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Subject: Crazy pointless £100k incentive race.   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Won by AOB and co at York. However the 2nd finished 2nd to Kings Gamble at Newmarket the other week and he just finished 3rd in the Gimcrack so the form should be solid.
  Topic: King of Change
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Subject: King of Change   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Derrinstown and then Starfield Stud. First runners next year, I quite liked him when I saw him at the guineas and I think Farhh is one of the best stallions around. Has he any chance?
  Topic: 4 runner Juddmonte
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Subject: 4 runner Juddmonte   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Obviously no Godolphin but surely there are more than four horses in Europe that can compete for a prize of over £1/2m to the winner? Absolute disgrace.
  Topic: Will Shk Mo be at the sales in force?
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Subject: Will Shk Mo be at the sales in force?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Needs a lot of new horses for next year. Plenty of Dubawi's to tempt him.
  Topic: Little Big Bear
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Subject: Little Big Bear   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Off to stud, no surprise to me. No sprinter in my book but will be marketed as a top sprinter. Not sure what to make of his chances or what his fee might be. Personally if I had a miler filly that sui ...
  Topic: Advertise....ouch!
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Subject: Advertise....ouch!   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Thought he may have been one of the better first seasoners. Tough to explain his dismal performance so far. A good looking high class horse and I suppose there is time to turn it around....but not muc ...
  Topic: Mayson on the move
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Subject: Mayson on the move   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I think you predicted that last year TOTH. No cluse as yet to where he is off but I think up North would see him getting a few mares every year. In fairness for a cheap stallion he does ok at the sale ...
  Topic: Pedigree experts..
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Subject: Pedigree experts..   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Dubawi foal out of Minding. Good?
  Topic: One for TOTH complaints list
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Subject: One for TOTH complaints list   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Before the July Cup today they stopped members of the public going into the pre parade ring. That includes all premier ticket and annual badge holders. What a farce.
  Topic: Interesting filly
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Subject: Interesting filly   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
at Ascot today, Under the Sun. Very stout pedigree and I was surprised she ran so well first time. You would think being by GH out of a Montjeu mare and out of a full sister to Jan Vermeer she would i ...
  Topic: Dubai Treasure
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Subject: Dubai Treasure   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Running today in maiden at HQ. Her dam Juneau never ran as a 2yo but ran 18 times as a 3yo winning 4 of them. I followed her a bit and was one of my favourites that year. Thats the sort of horse you ...
  Topic: If you ran Coolmore...
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Subject: If you ran Coolmore...   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
If you run Auguste Rodin in the KG and it won beating King Of Steel into second would you wish never ran him?
  Topic: 4 runner Eclipse
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Subject: 4 runner Eclipse   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
What is going on? Where on earth are the big Arab outfits? Where are all the Frankels? Its a mid season middle distance all aged race worth over £400k to the winner. 4 runners? It's a disgrace.
  Topic: Lope De Vega verses No Nay Never
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Subject: Lope De Vega verses No Nay Never   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I'm a big fan of NNN but if LDV was at Coolmore I think he would have done even better.
  Topic: Wootton Bassett
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Subject: Wootton Bassett   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A 2yo stakes winner in France, UK and Ireland already this year as well as King of Steel. The first Coolmore crop is next year so he is looking promising.
  Topic: Where's the logic?
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Subject: Where's the logic?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
£60k fillies novice, intended to stop horses going abroad?? 1st and 2nd favourite the King and Cheveley Park. I doubt they would sell a decent filly abroad.
  Topic: Will a Kodiac win the Guineas?
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Subject: Will a Kodiac win the Guineas?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
If he doesn't hang (and he will have plenty of chance to do that at the Curragh) Hi Royal looks like he has a great chance.
  Topic: Premiership meetings
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Subject: Premiership meetings   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
It seems 2-4pm on a Saturday are reserved for good horses only in the future. Its a little ironic that the Derby is at 1.30 this year. Not sure about attendance at Saturday meetings that start at 9.30 ...
  Topic: Land Force
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Subject: Land Force   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Off he mark with 2 winners over the last couple of days. Any thoughts? I quite like him but its getting very hard to win these 2yo maidens/novices. Will he get a dozen winners and will that make him o ...
  Topic: New Approach
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Subject: New Approach   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
It's a shame about his fertility. I thought he was doing well. Let's hope JB can get a few decent foals out of him. I think he's with the right guy at least.
  Topic: Derby to be run at lunchtime.
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Subject: Derby to be run at lunchtime.   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
What a terrible decision.
  Topic: Dreary Craven Meeting
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Subject: Dreary Craven Meeting   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
The worst I have attended so far. No Free Handicap, no AOB, no crowds and no atmosphere. Hope it picks up today. Big bright point was Lumiere's daughter winning yesterday.
  Topic: No Free Handicap
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Subject: No Free Handicap   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
The conditions race on Tuesday isn't much of a trial, the Craven doesn't look great. Not sure how cancelling a 7f listed race makes much of a difference to the pattern. I think it weakens the meeting.
  Topic: why ho runners?
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Subject: why ho runners?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
anyone know why there are no runner entries posted for Doncaster on sat/sun?
  Topic: New Stallions for 2023
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Subject: New Stallions for 2023   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A little thin on the ground. Certainly not much value anywhere. Any hot prospects £10k or under?
  Topic: The Sceptre Sessions
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Subject: The Sceptre Sessions   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
This should make good viewing. You will be guaranteed a good birth with any foal and a good book with any yearling. I think they will commercial gold for those that can afford them.
  Topic: Cable Bay
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Subject: Cable Bay   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Did I miss something? Where has he gone?
  Topic: al bahathri
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Subject: al bahathri   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Can anybody please tell me if this mare has ever been inbred to. Many thanks.
  Topic: Night of Thunder - Wow
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Subject: Night of Thunder - Wow   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
YTD median yearlings £170k. I have seen quite a few and it doesn't seem to matter what they look like. He must be one of the most successful young commercial stallions ever!! Everybody seems to want ...
  Topic: Churchill
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Subject: Churchill   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A G2 winner yesterday but it probably wasn't a great race. The Foxes was a looker and has a decent pedigree so he might go on to a G1. I don't think his colt can win the Arc but he has had a decent se ...
  Topic: Attendances
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Subject: Attendances   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
As a supplementary to the racing reform thread I would like to give my experiences on attendances this year. I go racing a lot not just as an owner but as a regular punter. Since the start of the year ...
  Topic: Jumby
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Subject: Jumby   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A group 2 winner now. Performance (so far) probably not good enough. Pedigree, anyone got any views? On looks he is just terrific. I have seen him loads of times and you see a much better (commercial) ...
  Topic: Havana Grey v's Sioux Nation
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Subject: Havana Grey v's Sioux Nation   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I thought it was all over buy SN is only 8/9 behind now. He could still do it. He seems to be getting new winners every day where HG has dried up a little.
  Topic: No Nay Never
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Subject: No Nay Never   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I thought Ten Sovereigns was one of the best looking colts of his generation and Little Big Bear is definitely the best looking 2yp I have seen for a good few years. That was some run on Saturday by L ...
  Topic: Golden Horn to Overbury
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Subject: Golden Horn to Overbury   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I think that's a good move for GH. I think he still may be an option for flat owner breeders. I find it hard to believe that such a high quality racehorse with his pedigree won't have some merit in th ...
  Topic: Only 6 for the KG
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Subject: Only 6 for the KG   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
That's a little disappointing.
  Topic: PRINCE FAISAL PARTS COMPANY WITH DAVID EGAN
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Subject: PRINCE FAISAL PARTS COMPANY WITH DAVID EGAN   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Anyone have any idea what's going on here?
  Topic: Coolmore
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Subject: Coolmore   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
With the forum being a little quiet and everyone everywhere speculating on Coolmore, I thought it might be 'fun' to join in the debate (not that we haven't loads of times).

Whatever their middle di ...
  Topic: Ruler of the World
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Subject: Ruler of the World   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Another G1 filly.
  Topic: Caledonian Gold
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Subject: Caledonian Gold   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
While looking through a pedigree I found this mare. Ran 63 times over 5 seasons without winning.
  Topic: Emily Upjohn
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Subject: Emily Upjohn   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Sold and off to To Darn Hot at some point. I suppose it relates a little to the other post but is this a decent mating? I have never seen her but apparently she is a good looking filly. How big is the ...
  Topic: The Coventry
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Subject: The Coventry   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Its a belter. Pick the bones out of this one. I have no clue to the winner (I have the Brocklesby winner top rated (UK only)) but its looks really competitive and as good as any for a while.
  Topic: Mawj (more)
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Subject: Mawj (more)   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
In the Albany with a great chance. Interestingly her 2nd dam Epitome, had a nice 2yo winner by Kingman at Doncaster today. She is 23 and I think she has had 16 foals to date. Now that's the sort of ma ...
  Topic: Desert Crown
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Subject: Desert Crown   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Any insights into the Derby favourites breeding?
  Topic: Tangier
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Subject: Tangier   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
This mare sells for AU$1.3m to Coolmore from Godolphin. I don't get why on earth Godolphin would sell a 1.3m mare to their competitors. Anyone got any clues?
  Topic: Mawj
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Subject: Mawj   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I thought it was the best 2yo performance of the year so far (in Britain). Just looking at her pedigree and see she is Modern games 1/2 sister. A good weekend for the dam who has also produced Modern ...
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Subject: Attendances   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A lot being made about attendances at the moment. I'm not sure what they expect with the cost of living as it is. They may have to start offering some value if things don't pick up!!
  Topic: Candy Ride
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Subject: Candy Ride   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Just reading about Gun Runner and wondered why we don't see any CR's progeny in Europe. His dam's family is largely European and Ride The Rails seems to be able to produce turf horses. Is there someth ...
  Topic: Dandy Man
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Subject: Dandy Man   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Not been a bad start for him with his 2yo's in Britain. These were from his first season at £15k. He seems to have been around for ages and his fee keeps on going up.
  Topic: Golden Horn
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Subject: Golden Horn   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
He will be cheap next year (if he isn't this year). 130 rated and plenty of decent horses (if not many superstars). A quick look at his top ten shows that his progeny were the best by 8 of the mares w ...
  Topic: Can he fail?
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Subject: Can he fail?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
If you haven't already take a read of this:

https://coolmore.com/farms/ireland/news/stellar-mares-for-st-marks-basilica
 
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  Topic: 2.50 Curragh
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Subject: 2.50 Curragh   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Magical, Marsha and Winter. That's not a shabby set of broodmares to line up in a maiden. Dubawi, Justify and Frankel are the sires!! Almost worth a trip over just to look at those three.
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Subject: Camelot   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
He's had a few threads on here but after the weekend he surly deserves another one. Hopefully we will see some promising 2yo's as we progress through the season.
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Subject: Zarir   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Urban Sea duplicated 3x3. Good or bad?
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Subject: Mayson   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A nice 2yo winner for him in France yesterday and no fluke either.
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Subject: Sergei   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Got the National Stakes last night. Right at the top of the 2yo table in Britain now. Early in the season but pretty impressive.
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Subject: Camelot   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Well he has a proper Derby chance now. Not sure how good the form of that race is but you can't help but think those in front of him in the betting may end up non stayers. COT obviously has claims if ...
  Topic: Wootton Bassett...it begins.
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Subject: Wootton Bassett...it begins.   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
AOB has his first WB 2yo running at Navan on Saturday, a 1/2 brother to Golden Horde. I reckon you could back WB 2yo's blind out of AOB's this season and make a profit!
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Subject: New breeze-up sale at Naas   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I think this is a good move. This will increase demand for the right sort of yearling.
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Subject: Earthlight   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
his first few runners yesterday all made the frame with one getting her head in front. Not a bad little start.
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Subject: Sergei   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
First runner, first winner...Boom.

What a start. He has a couple in the Brocklesby on Saturday and another one like that will get him a few late bookings I'm sure.

It looks a decent Brocklesy on ...
  Topic: Another initiative
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Subject: Another initiative   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstock/news/ebf-juddmonte-darley-and-tattersalls-combine-to-support-bhas-high-value-developmental-race-programme-avwl88p3K2yb/

Any extra prize money should probably b ...
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Subject: worth a read   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/pdf/tdn/tdn240207e.pdf

3yo's to follow. His last pick was my favourite 2yo of last year. I have heard that she had a little set back before xmas.
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Subject: First Seasoners for 2024   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Pintatubo @ 2/1
Sergei Prokofiev @ 9/4
Earthlight @ 11/4
Far above @ 12/1
Mohaather @ 16/1
Kameko @ 16/1
Ghaiyyath @ 16/1
Arizona @ 20/1
Wooded @ 25/1
Hello Youmzain @ 25/1
Sands of Mali @ 5 ...
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Subject: Another one ousted   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Land Force off to Scotch Corner. The Highclere stallion page is a quick read now. Where did Cable Bay go?
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Subject: Camelot   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
It was a shame Luxembourg just missed out, he's one of my favorites. Camelot has got a bit lost in the background with all the Wootton Bassett and that American triple crown winner (his name escapes m ...
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Subject: 2024 Offerings   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I think we are there with the new ones and all the 2024 fees have been announced. Thoughts on whats on offer next year? Easier or harder for small breeders?
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Subject: A little help   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Can anyone who has the 2021 return of mares help me out. I am looking for the numbers of mares the following stallions covered in 2021:
Cable Bay; Advertise; Invincible Army; Sergei Prokofiev; Taslee ...
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Subject: Goodnight Olive   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Sleep well Aunty Olive.... only kidding Megabucks Laughing

Does anyone else think $6m was cheap? Have we reached a ceiling on thoroughbred values? This is a mare that has won the Breeders Cup twice, ...
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Subject: Sergie   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A good few fillies available at the foal sales. Peter would have bravely taken the plunge but should we? Some forumite mat well have a vested interest here, lets hope he hasn't got a French Horn.
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Subject: Nathaniel is underrated....   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
...so let's stick him up two and a half grand. Is it just me and Spock shaking our heads?
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Subject: August Rodin   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
The lads sent one of their best mares half way around the world to the greatest sire in Japan, it was a very brave thing to do. They have produced a champion that has won a G1 at 2 and four G1s as a t ...
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Subject: Over you go Villy   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Native Trail at a little over £15k seems worth the ferry ticket. I suggest you book early!
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Subject: Coolmore   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
With at least Paddington and Little Big Bear taking residence next year they may well get short of room. Who's heading out? Here's the list:

Australia
Blackbeard
Calyx
Camelot
Churchill
Circu ...
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Subject: Possible 2024 stallions   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
What about Bradsell, where's he going? Surely he won't stay in training.
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Subject: Donny heavy on Saturday   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Looks like its a mud fest. The RP trophy looks a belter and let's hope it goes ahead. I think we may see next years 2000gns winner.
  Topic: A better weekend for Godolphin
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Subject: A better weekend for Godolphin   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Two nice colts won at Newmarket. A little overshadowed by COT but I think either pone could be classic types. Mawj still going strong with a grade 1 in the USofA.
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Subject: Top 10 GB 1st season sires   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Below are the top 10 so far. Any mileage in the likes of Inns of Court, Land Force, Invincible Army foals this year?

1 Blue Point (IRE)
2 Soldier's Call (GB)
3 Too Darn Hot (GB)
4 Inns of Co ...
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Subject: Richard Knight. Osama Bin Laden....   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
What could possibly go wrong??????
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Subject: Here we go with Bk1   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I could do with it smashing all records and buyers having to look for horses in about 2 weeks time. Good luck if you have one selling.
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Subject: Foal sales soon   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
1st season sires to look out for and any other that could turn a profit. Those less than the cost of a small island would be most of interest.
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Subject: Luxembourg   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Retire to stud or race on as a five year old?
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Subject: Gleneagles.   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Oh what should have been. Great 2yo, great 3yo, great looking, great pedigree, great book of mares to get him going and now quietly slipping away....or is he? He seems to still be in demand (relativel ...
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Subject: Crazy pointless £100k incentive race.   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Won by AOB and co at York. However the 2nd finished 2nd to Kings Gamble at Newmarket the other week and he just finished 3rd in the Gimcrack so the form should be solid.
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Subject: King of Change   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Derrinstown and then Starfield Stud. First runners next year, I quite liked him when I saw him at the guineas and I think Farhh is one of the best stallions around. Has he any chance?
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Subject: 4 runner Juddmonte   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Obviously no Godolphin but surely there are more than four horses in Europe that can compete for a prize of over £1/2m to the winner? Absolute disgrace.
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Subject: Will Shk Mo be at the sales in force?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Needs a lot of new horses for next year. Plenty of Dubawi's to tempt him.
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Subject: Little Big Bear   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Off to stud, no surprise to me. No sprinter in my book but will be marketed as a top sprinter. Not sure what to make of his chances or what his fee might be. Personally if I had a miler filly that sui ...
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Subject: Advertise....ouch!   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Thought he may have been one of the better first seasoners. Tough to explain his dismal performance so far. A good looking high class horse and I suppose there is time to turn it around....but not muc ...
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Subject: Mayson on the move   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I think you predicted that last year TOTH. No cluse as yet to where he is off but I think up North would see him getting a few mares every year. In fairness for a cheap stallion he does ok at the sale ...
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Subject: Pedigree experts..   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Dubawi foal out of Minding. Good?
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Subject: One for TOTH complaints list   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Before the July Cup today they stopped members of the public going into the pre parade ring. That includes all premier ticket and annual badge holders. What a farce.
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Subject: Interesting filly   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
at Ascot today, Under the Sun. Very stout pedigree and I was surprised she ran so well first time. You would think being by GH out of a Montjeu mare and out of a full sister to Jan Vermeer she would i ...
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Subject: Dubai Treasure   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Running today in maiden at HQ. Her dam Juneau never ran as a 2yo but ran 18 times as a 3yo winning 4 of them. I followed her a bit and was one of my favourites that year. Thats the sort of horse you ...
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Subject: If you ran Coolmore...   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
If you run Auguste Rodin in the KG and it won beating King Of Steel into second would you wish never ran him?
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Subject: 4 runner Eclipse   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
What is going on? Where on earth are the big Arab outfits? Where are all the Frankels? Its a mid season middle distance all aged race worth over £400k to the winner. 4 runners? It's a disgrace.
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Subject: Lope De Vega verses No Nay Never   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I'm a big fan of NNN but if LDV was at Coolmore I think he would have done even better.
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Subject: Wootton Bassett   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A 2yo stakes winner in France, UK and Ireland already this year as well as King of Steel. The first Coolmore crop is next year so he is looking promising.
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Subject: Where's the logic?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
£60k fillies novice, intended to stop horses going abroad?? 1st and 2nd favourite the King and Cheveley Park. I doubt they would sell a decent filly abroad.
  Topic: Will a Kodiac win the Guineas?
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Subject: Will a Kodiac win the Guineas?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
If he doesn't hang (and he will have plenty of chance to do that at the Curragh) Hi Royal looks like he has a great chance.
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Subject: Premiership meetings   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
It seems 2-4pm on a Saturday are reserved for good horses only in the future. Its a little ironic that the Derby is at 1.30 this year. Not sure about attendance at Saturday meetings that start at 9.30 ...
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Subject: Land Force   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Off he mark with 2 winners over the last couple of days. Any thoughts? I quite like him but its getting very hard to win these 2yo maidens/novices. Will he get a dozen winners and will that make him o ...
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Subject: New Approach   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
It's a shame about his fertility. I thought he was doing well. Let's hope JB can get a few decent foals out of him. I think he's with the right guy at least.
  Topic: Derby to be run at lunchtime.
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Subject: Derby to be run at lunchtime.   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
What a terrible decision.
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Subject: Dreary Craven Meeting   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
The worst I have attended so far. No Free Handicap, no AOB, no crowds and no atmosphere. Hope it picks up today. Big bright point was Lumiere's daughter winning yesterday.
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Subject: No Free Handicap   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
The conditions race on Tuesday isn't much of a trial, the Craven doesn't look great. Not sure how cancelling a 7f listed race makes much of a difference to the pattern. I think it weakens the meeting.
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Subject: why ho runners?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
anyone know why there are no runner entries posted for Doncaster on sat/sun?
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Subject: New Stallions for 2023   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A little thin on the ground. Certainly not much value anywhere. Any hot prospects £10k or under?
  Topic: The Sceptre Sessions
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Subject: The Sceptre Sessions   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
This should make good viewing. You will be guaranteed a good birth with any foal and a good book with any yearling. I think they will commercial gold for those that can afford them.
  Topic: Cable Bay
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Subject: Cable Bay   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Did I miss something? Where has he gone?
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Subject: al bahathri   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Can anybody please tell me if this mare has ever been inbred to. Many thanks.
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Subject: Night of Thunder - Wow   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
YTD median yearlings £170k. I have seen quite a few and it doesn't seem to matter what they look like. He must be one of the most successful young commercial stallions ever!! Everybody seems to want ...
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Subject: Churchill   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A G2 winner yesterday but it probably wasn't a great race. The Foxes was a looker and has a decent pedigree so he might go on to a G1. I don't think his colt can win the Arc but he has had a decent se ...
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Subject: Attendances   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
As a supplementary to the racing reform thread I would like to give my experiences on attendances this year. I go racing a lot not just as an owner but as a regular punter. Since the start of the year ...
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Subject: Jumby   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A group 2 winner now. Performance (so far) probably not good enough. Pedigree, anyone got any views? On looks he is just terrific. I have seen him loads of times and you see a much better (commercial) ...
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Subject: Havana Grey v's Sioux Nation   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I thought it was all over buy SN is only 8/9 behind now. He could still do it. He seems to be getting new winners every day where HG has dried up a little.
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Subject: No Nay Never   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I thought Ten Sovereigns was one of the best looking colts of his generation and Little Big Bear is definitely the best looking 2yp I have seen for a good few years. That was some run on Saturday by L ...
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Subject: Golden Horn to Overbury   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I think that's a good move for GH. I think he still may be an option for flat owner breeders. I find it hard to believe that such a high quality racehorse with his pedigree won't have some merit in th ...
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Subject: Only 6 for the KG   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
That's a little disappointing.
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Subject: PRINCE FAISAL PARTS COMPANY WITH DAVID EGAN   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Anyone have any idea what's going on here?
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Subject: Coolmore   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
With the forum being a little quiet and everyone everywhere speculating on Coolmore, I thought it might be 'fun' to join in the debate (not that we haven't loads of times).

Whatever their middle di ...
  Topic: Ruler of the World
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Subject: Ruler of the World   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Another G1 filly.
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Subject: Caledonian Gold   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
While looking through a pedigree I found this mare. Ran 63 times over 5 seasons without winning.
  Topic: Emily Upjohn
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Subject: Emily Upjohn   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Sold and off to To Darn Hot at some point. I suppose it relates a little to the other post but is this a decent mating? I have never seen her but apparently she is a good looking filly. How big is the ...
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Subject: The Coventry   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Its a belter. Pick the bones out of this one. I have no clue to the winner (I have the Brocklesby winner top rated (UK only)) but its looks really competitive and as good as any for a while.
  Topic: Mawj (more)
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Subject: Mawj (more)   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
In the Albany with a great chance. Interestingly her 2nd dam Epitome, had a nice 2yo winner by Kingman at Doncaster today. She is 23 and I think she has had 16 foals to date. Now that's the sort of ma ...
  Topic: Desert Crown
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Subject: Desert Crown   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Any insights into the Derby favourites breeding?
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Subject: Tangier   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
This mare sells for AU$1.3m to Coolmore from Godolphin. I don't get why on earth Godolphin would sell a 1.3m mare to their competitors. Anyone got any clues?
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Subject: Mawj   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
I thought it was the best 2yo performance of the year so far (in Britain). Just looking at her pedigree and see she is Modern games 1/2 sister. A good weekend for the dam who has also produced Modern ...
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Subject: Attendances   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
A lot being made about attendances at the moment. I'm not sure what they expect with the cost of living as it is. They may have to start offering some value if things don't pick up!!
  Topic: Candy Ride
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Subject: Candy Ride   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Just reading about Gun Runner and wondered why we don't see any CR's progeny in Europe. His dam's family is largely European and Ride The Rails seems to be able to produce turf horses. Is there someth ...
  Topic: Dandy Man
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Subject: Dandy Man   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
Not been a bad start for him with his 2yo's in Britain. These were from his first season at £15k. He seems to have been around for ages and his fee keeps on going up.
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Subject: Golden Horn   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
He will be cheap next year (if he isn't this year). 130 rated and plenty of decent horses (if not many superstars). A quick look at his top ten shows that his progeny were the best by 8 of the mares w ...
  Topic: Can he fail?
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Subject: Can he fail?   Posted: Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:33 pm
If you haven't already take a read of this:

https://coolmore.com/farms/ireland/news/stellar-mares-for-st-marks-basilica
 
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